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that person could overcome this, then

I can do it too. But what about positive

discrimination? Some women say they

don’t want to be positively

discriminated - “don’t give me special

treatment”. Others respond that in the

ideal world it would be like this, but

we don’t have an ideal world so we

need the positive discrimination. Who

is right?

Julie:

I don’t want such a treatment as a

woman. I want to be valued as who I

am, and my ability to think through

problems, my ability to solve difficult

challenges. And I think any woman

really is the same. I can’t speak for

every person in the world, but I do

think that we love the fact that we can

be valued as equals as much as

possible. But we also have to

acknowledge that that’s not exactly the

world that we are living in. I don’t really

look to specifically hire any particular

woman, but I want to give the women

we are talking to the opportunity to

envision themselves here, at my

company. And so we will make sure to

add a woman to the interview panel,

for instance. So that they can see that

women can be successful here. So as

you said, that they see mentors, that

they see people similar to themselves

and there is a path for them. But again,

it’s a difficult problem.

Ralph: Let’s get back to the geographic

and ethnicity aspects. For example,

Africa is a huge continent - but how

many people from Africa are here?

How can we make sure that all the

talent which could be available in the

scattered areas in the world is included?

Julie:

There a myriad of macro-

economic and political issues that play

into some of those regions that are

really hard to get a foothold in. And

those are things that are really difficult

to solve and will take a lot of time.

But

as you mentioned earlier: we need

mentors

. Having those mentors that are

able to mentor in specific regions,

wherever they are, I think that’s an area

where this would be very helpful.

Ralph: We agree that we have a huge

opportunity to reach more people in

areas which we don’t really consider

today. This panel is coming to an end,

and I would like to give you the

opportunity for a closing remark.

Tianli:

I want to say that I want more

diversity in engineering because only

with diversity, you can design products

for everybody.

Terrence:

There are two things I want to

mention.

One is through the

preparation of this panel discussion I

realised that how Siemens is doing for

the workforce of STEM, and there is this

website

siemensstemday.com,

you

really need to go there to take a look.

The other thing is in our company we

have a lot of open positions, so we are

looking for top talents, and you are

welcome to join us.

Julie:

I’d say in the largest scheme of

things we really should think globally,

and act locally. So think of this as a

global problem that is larger than

anyone of us can individually solve. But

if we can make strides individually to

helping improve the STEM education

and helping improve the interest areas

in girls,

for

instance,

or

underrepresented minorities.

Xin:

Especially for this conference I

think that the relationship between

industry and universities are really

important for recruiting and for training

and to build our future talent. So I

would encourage companies to have

close relationships with professors to

do research collaborations or supervise

students. That will help a lot.

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