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I started my PhD 17 years ago, and one

way to keep the passion over 17 years

is to change the family of problems

every once in a while, to freshen up.

Stay in machine learning and computer

vision problems, but change at the

beginning every 3 years and later every

6 years, and eat from the diversity of

the computer vision fruit - it’s a really

big fruit.

Is that something that others do as

well?

If I may dare to mention the really

great, like Zisserman and Malik, who

manage to keep the passion for a long

time, they all have one distinguishing

mark: they worked on a lot of

problems, and typically they make one

landmark contribution in each era.

Can it happen that somebody enters

into a field and realises that they

shouldn’t have?

Oh, absolutely. It happens when you’re

younger, and it happens when you’re

older. You have to be able to feel

whether putting energy into an area is

going to lead to things you want.

Which are always the same two:

happiness for yourself, so you have

fun, and the second is your publishing

and that people are interested in what

you write. These two criteria are often

in contradiction. So you need to feel it

as fast as you can. I would say if you’re

not happy after six months after

entering a field, you should change.

How do you rebound in the case it

doesn’t work?

When you are the first implementer - a

PhD or a postdoc, before you are a

professor, rebound is somewhat easier.

You have to have the self-discipline of

going to your advisor and saying, look,

this thing doesn't work. And then

normally it’s about having a picture of

the new thing. So just saying “I hate

what I’m doing, and I quit because it

doesn’t work”, then the alternative is

the void, and the void scares

everybody. So you need to set aside

some time. Normally when I felt I

wasn’t doing so well in an area,

especially when I was younger, I would

just say: this week, I only read. I don’t

program anything. And just read as

diverse stuff as possible, and then

decide what to work on. When you are

a older and you are a group leader,

then it’s harder to rebound, because

you are very much in love with your

own vision [he laughs] and you don’t

quite see why it doesn’t work.

And you have a responsibility for the

people who are with you.

Yes, telling your students: you know

what, because of various reasons,

perhaps technical impossibility reasons

or because somebody else already

implemented your idea, you have to

change direction. This is tricky, but it’s

important to do it. As you said, you

have a responsibility for the student.

And sometimes the best interest of the

student is to radically change topic. As

a group leader you must make these

choices.

Might it also be the case where the

student opens the eyes of the

professor and says that something is

not going to work?

Absolutely, sometimes it’s exactly the

PhD student or postdoc that has to go

to his boss and say: you know, Vitto,

this thing you like so much - it ain’t

gonna fly [

he laughs

]. The professor

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Tuesday

Vittorio Ferrari

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