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science make enough sense? Is the

inspiration and the passion there

that two teams want to work

together enough? This is the part, I

find, in my position, that I can help

my junior investigators by taking the

administration of this piece away

and help. Luckily, we have very good

administration at our hospital. We

try to make this happen quicker. We

push, push, push. We try to make

sure we are up to date with the laws

at our hospital and the laws of the

industry.

We encourage the

relationships and try to find a way

for the groups to meet without

being afraid.

Particularly for young investigators,

they are so worried about being

accused of being found to be guilty

or something crazy like this. They are

very sensitive, and they will not do

anything. They are afraid.

Ralph:

Do you think people today

are less passionate than they were

20 years ago?

Clare:

No, I don’t think so. I think

people are still very passionate. If

you know how to get things done, it

will get done. The junior people are

more afraid, or the path is not clear.

In the past, when there were less

rules, it was easier. I could call and

talk to people from various

companies. I don’t remember it

being difficult to negotiate my very

first research grant. It was my first

time ever, and it was not scary.

So I know that it’s very intimidating

for people. And risky… but they

shouldn’t think this way. They should

just simply learn the rules and get on

with it. You have to work within the

framework that the hospitals,

institutions, and universities have

put in place. Most of the time, they

are not there to stop people.

Ralph:

There is another thing that I

have heard a lot these days which is

that “we don’t have a data set”. How

to make clinical tests or to make sure

that the model works, if there is a

shortage of data to validate research

which is fundamental to save lives,

to improve the lives of people, and

to avoid life threatening situations.

How can it be that we have such a

bottleneck in such a sensitive area?

Clare:

It’s a very good question and a

very good point that you are asking.

The data is available. Well, some

data is available through open

source platforms and through the

NIH which demands that every form

of research has some sort of data

sharing source to the public good.

The problem, for some of the folks at

this meeting, is that the data is not

clean enough. The data is not

perfect. I do clinical imaging. We, in

the imaging community, I know we

do not make clean data. Every

patient is a little different than the

last patient. The scanning techniques

are not the same. Across the

vendors, GE, Siemens, Philips,

Hitachi, Toshiba, everyone who

makes imaging systems, there are

differences. Of course, there has to

be a difference to differentiate

vendors. But this doesn’t help the

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I think people are still

very passionate