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Aïcha:

That’s another lesson from

PhD: it’s not about the end-result,

it’s really about the journey. Because

most of the time, you struggle so

much to make something working,

that at the end, when you get

something positive, it’s a slight

accomplishment. And you feel proud

of that, of growing up. But it is an

extremely hard path. You have to

keep going.

MICCAI

Daily:

Did you see

colleagues of yours giving up?

Aïcha:

Yes, I have met with people

who gave up, during the PhD. They

realized that they weren’t driven by

the problem.

MICCAI Daily:

Males or females?

Aïcha:

I have seen females.

MICCAI Daily:

Is your stubbornness a

social one, by which you do not want

to admit a failure in front of others,

or a personal one, towards yourself?

Aïcha:

I am stubborn in so many

things in life… [laughs] I think I am

stubborn for myself: even when I do

not understand something, I just

keep going until I really get it. While

people who gave up did the right

choice, evaluating that this is not

good for them.

MICCAI Daily:

Are you never scared?

Aïcha:

Of course I am scared. But

being scared means that there is a

challenge and that you are learning a

lot. Scare should motivate you mora

than disable you.

MICCAI

Daily:

Where your

challenges mostly caused by people

or by technology?

Aïcha:

I think that even though a

PhD is a mostly lonely path,

struggling with your own self to try

to understand the emotional state

you are in, the answer to crisis is

professionalism, as my supervisor

taught me: step back and rationalize

whatever crisis you are at.

MICCAI Daily:

Where did you learn

those shaking off skills?

Aïcha:

[laughs] That’s a funny

question, this applies to science and

to many other things. You have to

step back and look at the situation

form a different point of view and it

dedrammatizes the situation

MICCAI Daily:

Have you ever been

treated inappropriately as a woman?

Aïcha:

I

haven’t felt much

discomfort, but it can be very

intimidating to be the single girl in a

room or to have very few women

around.

MICCAI Daily:

If I am alone in a room

full of women, I call it heaven… [

we

both laugh

] here is an asymmetry.

Aïcha:

Let me tell you: I have never

been in situations where I felt

discriminated because of my gender;

and if I am aggressed, I know how to

handle that. I can respond.

MICCAI Daily:

If you had a daughter

or a little sister less strong than you

are, how comfortable would you be

in putting them in the same settings

that you’ve been in?

Aïcha:

If it was my daughter, I think

I’d like her to be confronted to that,

because that’s how she’s gonna

learn to deal with that kind of

situations.

CVPR Daily: Thursday

Women in Science

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MICCAI Daily: Thursday